1 00:00:27,579 --> 00:00:11,320 [Music] 2 00:00:30,069 --> 00:00:27,589 greetings everyone and welcome to 3 00:00:32,799 --> 00:00:30,079 spacing out I'm Jason McClellan and I'm 4 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:32,809 Maureen Elsberry and we're back welcome 5 00:00:39,100 --> 00:00:36,170 to the 100th and eleventh episode of 6 00:00:41,500 --> 00:00:39,110 spacing out pretty exciting 7 00:00:44,110 --> 00:00:41,510 and this is the first episode we've done 8 00:00:46,630 --> 00:00:44,120 under rub planet if you haven't watched 9 00:00:49,119 --> 00:00:46,640 basting out before spacing out the show 10 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:49,129 that Maureen and I created oh when was 11 00:00:55,479 --> 00:00:51,489 it probably twenty twelve I want to say 12 00:00:58,090 --> 00:00:55,489 maybe twenty twelve the show we did and 13 00:01:00,009 --> 00:00:58,100 we created while we were both at a UFO 14 00:01:02,289 --> 00:01:00,019 media company that we both helped start 15 00:01:04,570 --> 00:01:02,299 called open minds neither of us are with 16 00:01:07,570 --> 00:01:04,580 open minds anymore and after some 17 00:01:09,580 --> 00:01:07,580 finagling and discussions we managed to 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:09,590 get spacing out back so that's why we're 19 00:01:12,550 --> 00:01:11,570 bringing it back well that's part of the 20 00:01:14,859 --> 00:01:12,560 reason we're bringing it back that's why 21 00:01:15,580 --> 00:01:14,869 we're able to bring it back but we love 22 00:01:22,090 --> 00:01:15,590 this show 23 00:01:24,670 --> 00:01:22,100 we're excited to bring spacing out to 24 00:01:27,069 --> 00:01:24,680 you again and while our formats a little 25 00:01:29,380 --> 00:01:27,079 different now Jason and I are currently 26 00:01:31,899 --> 00:01:29,390 in different countries normally we'll 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:31,909 just be in different states so we're not 28 00:01:36,669 --> 00:01:33,890 able to be in the same studio together 29 00:01:40,450 --> 00:01:36,679 so we promise you we will in the future 30 00:01:43,599 --> 00:01:40,460 and will be filled with investigations 31 00:01:46,599 --> 00:01:43,609 and all sorts of fun cool content but 32 00:01:48,789 --> 00:01:46,609 for now at least I can say that we're 33 00:01:50,919 --> 00:01:48,799 here to get you caught up on the news so 34 00:02:01,120 --> 00:01:50,929 here are some of the space UFO and 35 00:02:07,219 --> 00:02:04,760 well.all news good or bad is better with 36 00:02:09,260 --> 00:02:07,229 a drink in hand at least as far as we're 37 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:09,270 concerned so morning what are you 38 00:02:14,690 --> 00:02:12,530 drinking today I am drinking a random 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:14,700 Verdejo 40 00:02:21,170 --> 00:02:17,850 it's white wine here from locally from 41 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:21,180 Spain this particular one is not very 42 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:24,450 good but I had trouble getting anything 43 00:02:30,229 --> 00:02:27,090 because it was a surprise holiday that I 44 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:30,239 didn't know about today so all the 45 00:02:35,900 --> 00:02:33,090 stores were closed well I am drinking 46 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:35,910 something I just happened to see in the 47 00:02:43,190 --> 00:02:37,170 store and it called to me 48 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:43,200 it's a UI Mars whiskey and obviously 49 00:02:47,270 --> 00:02:45,690 because it's Mars whiskey that is reason 50 00:02:49,009 --> 00:02:47,280 enough for me to drink it but it's 51 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:49,019 actually quite smooth quite delicious 52 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:51,330 it's a blended whiskey they call it a 53 00:02:55,640 --> 00:02:53,310 bourbon inspired whiskey and the 54 00:02:59,030 --> 00:02:55,650 distiller is Mars whiskey so I naturally 55 00:03:02,000 --> 00:02:59,040 love it but it is fantastic man you had 56 00:03:06,500 --> 00:03:02,010 a way fancier booze introduction that 57 00:03:08,539 --> 00:03:06,510 then I did but shares the private space 58 00:03:10,670 --> 00:03:08,549 industry continues to make advances at 59 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:10,680 an incredible rate you might remember 60 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:14,010 that back in April of 2016 an expandable 61 00:03:17,750 --> 00:03:16,410 module from Bigelow Aerospace was 62 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:17,760 attached to the International Space 63 00:03:23,690 --> 00:03:20,130 Station the Bigelow expandable Activity 64 00:03:26,180 --> 00:03:23,700 module or a beam for short is a habitat 65 00:03:30,289 --> 00:03:26,190 that expands when it's installed at its 66 00:03:33,140 --> 00:03:30,299 destination and it provides 565 square 67 00:03:35,479 --> 00:03:33,150 cubic feet of space for astronauts to 68 00:03:37,729 --> 00:03:35,489 live and work the original plan was the 69 00:03:40,910 --> 00:03:37,739 jettison beam from the ISS after a 70 00:03:43,250 --> 00:03:40,920 two-year testing period but after nearly 71 00:03:45,650 --> 00:03:43,260 a year and a half it looks like beam 72 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:45,660 might be sticking around NASA is 73 00:03:50,150 --> 00:03:47,850 currently exploring options with Bigelow 74 00:03:52,789 --> 00:03:50,160 Aerospace to keep beam attached to the 75 00:03:56,090 --> 00:03:52,799 ISS to use as a storage room of sorts 76 00:03:57,890 --> 00:03:56,100 while also allowing Bigelow Aerospace to 77 00:04:00,319 --> 00:03:57,900 use the module for testing new 78 00:04:01,699 --> 00:04:00,329 technology Bigelow Aerospace is a 79 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:01,709 leading company in the private space 80 00:04:05,599 --> 00:04:04,410 race news magazine shows 60 minutes 81 00:04:07,910 --> 00:04:05,609 aired an interview with Bigelow 82 00:04:11,270 --> 00:04:07,920 Aerospace founder Robert Bigelow on may 83 00:04:13,070 --> 00:04:11,280 28th this year 60 minutes reporter Lara 84 00:04:15,290 --> 00:04:13,080 Logan spoke with Bigelow about big 85 00:04:17,990 --> 00:04:15,300 aerospace it's partnerships with NASA 86 00:04:20,570 --> 00:04:18,000 and the companies incredible inflatable 87 00:04:22,790 --> 00:04:20,580 habitats and she also broached the 88 00:04:25,490 --> 00:04:22,800 subject of UFOs and extraterrestrials a 89 00:04:28,550 --> 00:04:25,500 subject with which Bigelow is extremely 90 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:28,560 familiar and passionate Logan asked 91 00:04:33,170 --> 00:04:30,810 Bigelow if he believes in aliens and his 92 00:04:35,690 --> 00:04:33,180 response was I am absolutely convinced 93 00:04:38,150 --> 00:04:35,700 that's all there is to it digging deeper 94 00:04:39,530 --> 00:04:38,160 she asked Bigelow if he believes UFOs 95 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:39,540 have come to earth 96 00:04:43,910 --> 00:04:41,610 there has been an is an existing 97 00:04:45,470 --> 00:04:43,920 presence of an eating presence being 98 00:04:48,290 --> 00:04:45,480 such a prominent figure in the private 99 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:48,300 space industry and one who has contacts 100 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:48,960 with NASA 101 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:52,170 Logan asked is it risky for you to say 102 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:54,090 you know in public that you believe 103 00:04:58,130 --> 00:04:55,890 Michael didn't you oppose an alien I 104 00:04:59,750 --> 00:04:58,140 don't care you don't worry that some 105 00:05:02,000 --> 00:04:59,760 people will say did you hear that guy 106 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:02,010 sounds like he's crazy I don't care 107 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:03,930 why not it's not gonna make a difference 108 00:05:09,020 --> 00:05:06,570 it's not gonna change reality of what I 109 00:05:11,090 --> 00:05:09,030 know Bigelow then brought up the fact 110 00:05:13,310 --> 00:05:11,100 that he has personally spent millions of 111 00:05:16,070 --> 00:05:13,320 dollars investigating UFOs and other 112 00:05:18,409 --> 00:05:16,080 paranormal subjects Logan then shifted 113 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:18,419 her extraterrestrial themed questions to 114 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:21,930 contact do you imagine that in our space 115 00:05:26,690 --> 00:05:24,570 travels we will encounter other forms of 116 00:05:29,350 --> 00:05:26,700 intelligent life you don't have to go 117 00:05:31,940 --> 00:05:29,360 anywhere you can find it here yeah 118 00:05:34,340 --> 00:05:31,950 without blinking an eye Bigelow 119 00:05:38,540 --> 00:05:34,350 explained it's just like right under 120 00:05:40,310 --> 00:05:38,550 people's noses oh my gosh Wow a new 121 00:05:43,909 --> 00:05:40,320 telescope could help scientists detect 122 00:05:45,950 --> 00:05:43,919 alien life on a nearby exoplanet the EXO 123 00:05:47,659 --> 00:05:45,960 life finder or elf telescope will 124 00:05:50,420 --> 00:05:47,669 reportedly be the world's first 125 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:50,430 telescope designed to create surface 126 00:05:55,490 --> 00:05:53,610 maps of nearby exoplanets it's designed 127 00:05:58,700 --> 00:05:55,500 to see exoplanets up to a hundred and 128 00:06:01,850 --> 00:05:58,710 twenty trillion miles away or 24 129 00:06:03,350 --> 00:06:01,860 light-years away from Earth the 130 00:06:05,630 --> 00:06:03,360 telescope will be able to detect energy 131 00:06:07,790 --> 00:06:05,640 signatures of life or life's likely 132 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:07,800 chemical fingerprints in the atmosphere 133 00:06:13,540 --> 00:06:10,770 things like water oxygen methane and 134 00:06:15,590 --> 00:06:13,550 ozone elf will also be able to detect 135 00:06:16,750 --> 00:06:15,600 photosynthetic bio pigments on a 136 00:06:20,950 --> 00:06:16,760 planet's surface 137 00:06:23,270 --> 00:06:20,960 elf sounds cool but it doesn't exist yet 138 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:23,280 the group behind the ambitious project 139 00:06:27,340 --> 00:06:26,010 the planets foundation is working to 140 00:06:30,740 --> 00:06:27,350 make it happen though 141 00:06:33,950 --> 00:06:30,750 this group is a nonprofit organization 142 00:06:36,530 --> 00:06:33,960 of professors astrophysicists engineers 143 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:36,540 entrepreneurs and scientists from around 144 00:06:41,210 --> 00:06:38,880 the world the planets foundation has 145 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:41,220 turned to crowdfunding to raise money to 146 00:06:45,500 --> 00:06:43,170 construct a Rome prototype the 147 00:06:48,170 --> 00:06:45,510 kickstarter campaign page features more 148 00:06:50,990 --> 00:06:48,180 details about the plans for elf quote 149 00:06:53,330 --> 00:06:51,000 the first target will be Proxima B and 150 00:06:55,070 --> 00:06:53,340 only a few months after elf is completed 151 00:06:57,410 --> 00:06:55,080 we will know if there is life on this 152 00:06:59,270 --> 00:06:57,420 nearest exoplanet we will also learn 153 00:07:01,850 --> 00:06:59,280 whether there are earth-like planets 154 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:01,860 around Alpha Centauri a and B and all 155 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:04,410 other nearby stars within a few dozen 156 00:07:08,830 --> 00:07:06,690 light-years away from the Sun we will 157 00:07:10,940 --> 00:07:08,840 learn if we have neighbors big or small 158 00:07:13,130 --> 00:07:10,950 if and when the project comes to 159 00:07:15,980 --> 00:07:13,140 fruition the plan is to build the off 160 00:07:17,630 --> 00:07:15,990 telescope in Chile's Atacama Desert for 161 00:07:21,490 --> 00:07:17,640 more information about the project check 162 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:21,500 out the planets foundations website at 163 00:07:27,670 --> 00:07:24,930 WWF well Jason I don't know about you 164 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:27,680 but it's too bad that this is not 165 00:07:34,550 --> 00:07:30,570 extraterrestrial boos if you want to 166 00:07:37,580 --> 00:07:34,560 know why I'll tell you yeah a drunk man 167 00:07:41,780 --> 00:07:37,590 was picked up for public intoxication in 168 00:07:45,530 --> 00:07:41,790 Casper Wyoming and he told officers that 169 00:07:48,950 --> 00:07:45,540 he was from the Year 2048 and was sent 170 00:07:53,630 --> 00:07:48,960 back in time to warn the citizens of an 171 00:07:56,510 --> 00:07:53,640 impending alien invasion he has to speak 172 00:08:01,370 --> 00:07:56,520 to the president of the town of course 173 00:08:04,580 --> 00:08:01,380 they did not arrange that meeting and he 174 00:08:07,810 --> 00:08:04,590 claims that the reason he was able to 175 00:08:09,890 --> 00:08:07,820 time travel was because the 176 00:08:12,650 --> 00:08:09,900 extraterrestrials filled him up with 177 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:12,660 alcohol this is the greatest excuse I've 178 00:08:16,610 --> 00:08:15,090 ever heard for being drunk in public I 179 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:16,620 should have used it myself 180 00:08:23,390 --> 00:08:20,610 in years past but very creative but 181 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:23,400 there was a small glitch so he claims 182 00:08:29,770 --> 00:08:25,050 that he was supposed to come back to the 183 00:08:32,719 --> 00:08:29,780 year 2018 and he showed up in 2017 so 184 00:08:37,700 --> 00:08:32,729 this could be the key to interstellar 185 00:08:41,210 --> 00:08:37,710 travel or time travel on its own 186 00:08:45,530 --> 00:08:41,220 um or he's just full of and I think 187 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:45,540 we know what the real answer is it's 188 00:08:49,940 --> 00:08:48,330 really cool yeah it's cool that you can 189 00:08:53,180 --> 00:08:49,950 time-travel of aliens fill your body 190 00:08:55,550 --> 00:08:53,190 with alcohol but if they send you to the 191 00:08:59,390 --> 00:08:55,560 wrong year maybe the aliens should not 192 00:09:03,080 --> 00:08:59,400 consume said alcohol while working on 193 00:09:04,820 --> 00:09:03,090 this time-travel procedure yep yep you 194 00:09:07,430 --> 00:09:04,830 know when I were seeing more of these 195 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:07,440 stories you know somewhat related 196 00:09:13,570 --> 00:09:10,530 stories like this people claiming 197 00:09:16,070 --> 00:09:13,580 outlandish stories about an 198 00:09:17,540 --> 00:09:16,080 extraterrestrial war or hostile 199 00:09:21,260 --> 00:09:17,550 extraterrestrials and here to warn 200 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:21,270 people or whatever um remember back we 201 00:09:26,780 --> 00:09:22,560 talked about this story in one of our 202 00:09:29,390 --> 00:09:26,790 mini podcasts but Kyle Odom I think it 203 00:09:31,670 --> 00:09:29,400 was back in March of 2016 this is a guy 204 00:09:34,490 --> 00:09:31,680 who was arrested in Idaho after he shot 205 00:09:36,680 --> 00:09:34,500 a pastor six times but claimed that he 206 00:09:39,350 --> 00:09:36,690 killed several other people too because 207 00:09:41,180 --> 00:09:39,360 they were evil aliens and they were 208 00:09:45,260 --> 00:09:41,190 controlling his mind called them 209 00:09:47,390 --> 00:09:45,270 amphibious humanoids and fibia CEO noids 210 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:47,400 from Mars or something like that but 211 00:09:52,430 --> 00:09:50,010 they were they were speaking with him 212 00:09:53,900 --> 00:09:52,440 telepathically and and you know trying 213 00:09:56,330 --> 00:09:53,910 to convince him to become a sex slave 214 00:09:58,790 --> 00:09:56,340 and all these other crazy things and so 215 00:10:00,920 --> 00:09:58,800 he went to Washington and threw some 216 00:10:03,170 --> 00:10:00,930 stuff over the the White House fence to 217 00:10:06,020 --> 00:10:03,180 try to get a like a flash drive of 218 00:10:07,850 --> 00:10:06,030 information to the president but then he 219 00:10:09,860 --> 00:10:07,860 also said that the president was under 220 00:10:11,510 --> 00:10:09,870 extraterrestrial control and all this 221 00:10:13,220 --> 00:10:11,520 stuff but you know these are stories 222 00:10:16,010 --> 00:10:13,230 that aren't original we've heard them 223 00:10:18,380 --> 00:10:16,020 before but you know thanks to 24-hour 224 00:10:20,780 --> 00:10:18,390 news and and social media we're hearing 225 00:10:22,070 --> 00:10:20,790 more about these crazy things but you 226 00:10:23,870 --> 00:10:22,080 and I have talked about this before I'm 227 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:23,880 worrying like what if something like 228 00:10:29,330 --> 00:10:26,130 this were true what if one of these 229 00:10:31,370 --> 00:10:29,340 cases or any of these cases were genuine 230 00:10:32,540 --> 00:10:31,380 these people were trying to say hey look 231 00:10:35,150 --> 00:10:32,550 I'm here to warn you about an alien 232 00:10:36,740 --> 00:10:35,160 invasion or aliens are controlling me 233 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:36,750 and I'm trying to warn you that they're 234 00:10:42,680 --> 00:10:40,530 controlling our government how could you 235 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:42,690 ever know that it's true how could 236 00:10:47,870 --> 00:10:45,690 anybody convince anybody of something so 237 00:10:50,180 --> 00:10:47,880 absurd like that like it would be a 238 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:50,190 futile attempt I think because obviously 239 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:51,360 here's something like that you're 240 00:10:56,090 --> 00:10:53,970 whoo that's crazy that guy's been 241 00:10:58,579 --> 00:10:56,100 drinking the extra-terrestrial alcohol I 242 00:11:01,790 --> 00:10:58,589 think it's the whole stigma of the boy 243 00:11:04,699 --> 00:11:01,800 who cried wolf you know if this ever was 244 00:11:10,210 --> 00:11:04,709 to be something that somebody actually 245 00:11:14,060 --> 00:11:10,220 got some real information in such a very 246 00:11:16,430 --> 00:11:14,070 far out there fashion nobody would 247 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:16,440 believe them because we've heard all 248 00:11:25,180 --> 00:11:19,890 these stories from people who are 249 00:11:28,430 --> 00:11:25,190 mentally ill or drunk or on drugs or 250 00:11:32,060 --> 00:11:28,440 some people that just believe it to be 251 00:11:37,180 --> 00:11:32,070 true and it might not be I'm not to 252 00:11:41,350 --> 00:11:37,190 judge whether or not reptilians are 253 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:41,360 jumping over fences to control the 254 00:11:46,850 --> 00:11:44,730 president I mean to be honest they're 255 00:11:50,329 --> 00:11:46,860 scarier stuff going on on our planet 256 00:11:52,310 --> 00:11:50,339 right now so I don't think people would 257 00:11:53,660 --> 00:11:52,320 put as much weight into it because we've 258 00:11:55,910 --> 00:11:53,670 got bigger fish to fry 259 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:55,920 I mean seriously bring in the 260 00:12:02,210 --> 00:11:57,810 extra-terrestrial invasion for all I 261 00:12:05,210 --> 00:12:02,220 care take me away yeah I think a lot of 262 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:05,220 people are saying that now please take 263 00:12:11,060 --> 00:12:08,130 me all right I want to talk to you 264 00:12:12,860 --> 00:12:11,070 briefly about this new telescope you 265 00:12:15,380 --> 00:12:12,870 know where over the years we've talked 266 00:12:18,199 --> 00:12:15,390 about several new telescopes that you 267 00:12:19,550 --> 00:12:18,209 know sound incredibly awesome you know 268 00:12:21,710 --> 00:12:19,560 being the space geeks we are they're 269 00:12:23,569 --> 00:12:21,720 incredibly exciting and from an 270 00:12:25,610 --> 00:12:23,579 astrobiology standpoint it's incredibly 271 00:12:29,150 --> 00:12:25,620 excited when you have these really 272 00:12:32,750 --> 00:12:29,160 intelligent and you know high tech tools 273 00:12:34,069 --> 00:12:32,760 that are being implemented to for the 274 00:12:36,860 --> 00:12:34,079 specific purpose of looking for 275 00:12:39,949 --> 00:12:36,870 extraterrestrial life it's really 276 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:39,959 exciting I'm glad to see more you know 277 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:44,610 in the works but we know that plenty of 278 00:12:48,889 --> 00:12:46,649 people who will watch this show are 279 00:12:49,550 --> 00:12:48,899 going to be vocal and tell us like they 280 00:12:53,630 --> 00:12:49,560 always do 281 00:12:57,410 --> 00:12:53,640 thanks guys that who cares they're 282 00:12:58,880 --> 00:12:57,420 already here why are we looking well why 283 00:13:02,000 --> 00:12:58,890 are we looking worrying why does it 284 00:13:03,140 --> 00:13:02,010 matter well it absolutely matters and no 285 00:13:06,290 --> 00:13:03,150 matter if you think 286 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:06,300 that aliens have been visiting earth for 287 00:13:14,090 --> 00:13:10,050 millions of years or you think you've 288 00:13:15,710 --> 00:13:14,100 been abducted and you know you want to 289 00:13:18,470 --> 00:13:15,720 share this information with the world 290 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:18,480 and you think you have the absolute 291 00:13:24,620 --> 00:13:20,450 truth for everyone that's not gonna be 292 00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:24,630 concrete evidence enough for most people 293 00:13:29,930 --> 00:13:26,690 out there you know we need some 294 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:29,940 scientifically backed information for it 295 00:13:36,830 --> 00:13:33,330 to be easily digestible for the general 296 00:13:39,460 --> 00:13:36,840 public so this disclosure or 297 00:13:41,990 --> 00:13:39,470 confirmation of life even if you know 298 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:42,000 that life is out there and has been 299 00:13:45,350 --> 00:13:44,730 visiting earth is not good enough I'm 300 00:13:51,260 --> 00:13:45,360 sorry 301 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:51,270 we need more generalized information and 302 00:13:56,690 --> 00:13:53,930 so that's why these telescopes and 303 00:13:59,090 --> 00:13:56,700 scientific studies are so important 304 00:14:02,630 --> 00:13:59,100 because we're getting closer to being 305 00:14:05,050 --> 00:14:02,640 able to find more microbial life for 306 00:14:08,060 --> 00:14:05,060 maybe intelligent life out there and 307 00:14:11,030 --> 00:14:08,070 when that happens we're gonna have these 308 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:11,040 privatized space companies and NASA and 309 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:13,610 other aeronautical government 310 00:14:20,090 --> 00:14:17,690 organizations investing more money in 311 00:14:22,490 --> 00:14:20,100 searching these other planets and in 312 00:14:24,170 --> 00:14:22,500 finding out more information about just 313 00:14:26,300 --> 00:14:24,180 what is out there 314 00:14:28,460 --> 00:14:26,310 do we have intelligent neighbors are 315 00:14:31,130 --> 00:14:28,470 they like us are they different during 316 00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:31,140 the octopus's are they you know what 317 00:14:37,670 --> 00:14:34,560 what are these life-forms or where are 318 00:14:41,300 --> 00:14:37,680 they who are they so it's a really 319 00:14:43,700 --> 00:14:41,310 exciting time and and that's why we 320 00:14:46,580 --> 00:14:43,710 already know they're here just isn't 321 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:46,590 going to cut it yeah I think all efforts 322 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:49,290 you know in the search for 323 00:14:54,530 --> 00:14:51,770 extraterrestrial life are worthwhile 324 00:14:55,580 --> 00:14:54,540 whether you're you know you can look at 325 00:14:57,100 --> 00:14:55,590 it from so many different angles but 326 00:15:01,300 --> 00:14:57,110 we're talking about you know from a 327 00:15:03,530 --> 00:15:01,310 believer or you know Pro UFO / 328 00:15:06,380 --> 00:15:03,540 extraterrestrial or you know the UFO 329 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:06,390 audience perspective looking at 330 00:15:11,870 --> 00:15:08,850 disclosure and getting the world to know 331 00:15:14,210 --> 00:15:11,880 that extraterrestrials visit here and 332 00:15:15,550 --> 00:15:14,220 are here and whatever that belief might 333 00:15:18,220 --> 00:15:15,560 be 334 00:15:21,430 --> 00:15:18,230 you can't just come at the general 335 00:15:24,790 --> 00:15:21,440 public and say I've been abducted by an 336 00:15:26,620 --> 00:15:24,800 alien or my neighbors an alien or our 337 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:26,630 government is controlled by aliens or 338 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:30,370 I'm a hybrid alien like that maybe true 339 00:15:35,829 --> 00:15:33,110 but people aren't going to believe it 340 00:15:39,070 --> 00:15:35,839 and it's a lot for people to take in all 341 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:39,080 at once so when you have mainstream 342 00:15:43,269 --> 00:15:40,730 beliefs that are backed by mainstream 343 00:15:45,820 --> 00:15:43,279 science and something conflicts with 344 00:15:48,490 --> 00:15:45,830 that or challenges it you've got to take 345 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:48,500 things in baby steps you know little 346 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:52,370 baby steps are what is going to allow 347 00:15:58,570 --> 00:15:55,850 people to open up their minds consider 348 00:16:01,060 --> 00:15:58,580 new possibilities and explore those 349 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:01,070 things for themselves so you have to 350 00:16:05,890 --> 00:16:03,410 give information like this to people in 351 00:16:08,019 --> 00:16:05,900 bite-size pieces and obviously the thing 352 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:08,029 that's easy to swallow for most 353 00:16:12,190 --> 00:16:09,890 mainstream public is information 354 00:16:13,870 --> 00:16:12,200 provided by mainstream science so 355 00:16:17,050 --> 00:16:13,880 whatever that information might be 356 00:16:18,790 --> 00:16:17,060 that's a route to go that will open the 357 00:16:21,550 --> 00:16:18,800 minds of a lot of people to explore the 358 00:16:23,110 --> 00:16:21,560 possibilities but from a completely 359 00:16:26,170 --> 00:16:23,120 different angle just look at this as 360 00:16:29,350 --> 00:16:26,180 anything else in life that we research 361 00:16:31,390 --> 00:16:29,360 you know just because we discovered a 362 00:16:33,850 --> 00:16:31,400 lizard a long time ago we don't stop 363 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:33,860 looking for lizards you know just I 364 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:35,930 think it was in the last couple weeks 365 00:16:42,190 --> 00:16:38,450 maybe in the last week depending on when 366 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:42,200 this show airs that twelve new species 367 00:16:45,370 --> 00:16:44,330 of gecko were discovered we're 368 00:16:48,430 --> 00:16:45,380 discovering new things all the time 369 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:48,440 right here on our planet and you don't 370 00:16:52,510 --> 00:16:50,330 need to see scientists going well a 371 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:52,520 lizard we already found a lizard a long 372 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:54,290 time ago who cares we done looking 373 00:16:58,690 --> 00:16:57,050 lizards we don't do that we continue 374 00:16:58,960 --> 00:16:58,700 looking and learning new things all the 375 00:17:02,500 --> 00:16:58,970 time 376 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:02,510 so even if there is an extraterrestrial 377 00:17:08,050 --> 00:17:04,610 living next to you even if you are a 378 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:08,060 hybrid extraterrestrial that's cool but 379 00:17:12,490 --> 00:17:09,890 we don't just then hang up everything 380 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:12,500 and go done with aliens who cares old 381 00:17:17,140 --> 00:17:15,530 news at least in my opinion I mean I 382 00:17:19,179 --> 00:17:17,150 think the exploration continues and 383 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:19,189 we're always looking for what else is 384 00:17:22,059 --> 00:17:19,850 out there 385 00:17:23,829 --> 00:17:22,069 just because you discover an 386 00:17:26,199 --> 00:17:23,839 extraterrestrial doesn't mean you know 387 00:17:28,550 --> 00:17:26,209 everything about every extraterrestrial 388 00:17:31,610 --> 00:17:28,560 that's everywhere in the universe 389 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:31,620 universe is pretty big yeah and 390 00:17:38,210 --> 00:17:35,010 unfortunately people do I get emails and 391 00:17:40,610 --> 00:17:38,220 comments all the time about people 392 00:17:43,130 --> 00:17:40,620 thinking they know everything they're 393 00:17:46,030 --> 00:17:43,140 saying hey look this researcher guy is 394 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:46,040 gonna reveal the truth about everything 395 00:17:52,220 --> 00:17:48,810 and if you think you know everything 396 00:17:55,970 --> 00:17:52,230 about every extraterrestrial species out 397 00:17:58,340 --> 00:17:55,980 there if you know who they are what 398 00:18:00,830 --> 00:17:58,350 their motives are and you're gonna be 399 00:18:02,510 --> 00:18:00,840 able to tell the whole world so everyone 400 00:18:05,630 --> 00:18:02,520 should think of you as a prophet that 401 00:18:09,530 --> 00:18:05,640 person is full of and you should 402 00:18:10,730 --> 00:18:09,540 not trust them you know people if a lot 403 00:18:14,570 --> 00:18:10,740 of these people actually believe that 404 00:18:16,900 --> 00:18:14,580 they do know all of this information and 405 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:16,910 that's fine they're allowed to believe 406 00:18:23,180 --> 00:18:21,450 what they want to but you should not 407 00:18:24,890 --> 00:18:23,190 believe them you know I try to be 408 00:18:27,590 --> 00:18:24,900 respectful and say you're entitled to 409 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:27,600 your opinion and but I highly recommend 410 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:32,250 that people actually do research and 411 00:18:37,910 --> 00:18:35,250 look into various viewpoints don't trust 412 00:18:41,690 --> 00:18:37,920 just one person you know próxima B I 413 00:18:43,910 --> 00:18:41,700 went to a presentation by one of the 414 00:18:47,450 --> 00:18:43,920 scientists greatly involved in this and 415 00:18:50,330 --> 00:18:47,460 they called it the pale red dot for so 416 00:18:53,180 --> 00:18:50,340 long and so it's exciting that that elf 417 00:18:56,930 --> 00:18:53,190 if this is developed may be able to find 418 00:19:00,500 --> 00:18:56,940 like that close to us so well he did say 419 00:19:03,140 --> 00:19:00,510 that it's it's probably unlikely this 420 00:19:06,260 --> 00:19:03,150 planet is located in the habitable zone 421 00:19:09,410 --> 00:19:06,270 so the potential for maybe some 422 00:19:12,770 --> 00:19:09,420 surprises there is it's exciting this is 423 00:19:18,460 --> 00:19:12,780 a really exciting time in science and in 424 00:19:20,540 --> 00:19:18,470 space exploration what about Bigelow 425 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:20,550 always love when big loads in the news 426 00:19:25,010 --> 00:19:22,530 and you know we've talked about Robert 427 00:19:26,830 --> 00:19:25,020 Bigelow for years and he's a polarizing 428 00:19:29,210 --> 00:19:26,840 figure certainly in the UFO community 429 00:19:31,310 --> 00:19:29,220 you know there are plenty of people who 430 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:31,320 have written him off and think he's some 431 00:19:36,830 --> 00:19:34,170 nefarious character who's hoarding 432 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:36,840 information for himself and you know in 433 00:19:40,190 --> 00:19:38,610 cahoots with aliens or in possession of 434 00:19:41,779 --> 00:19:40,200 alien technology and won't share it with 435 00:19:46,139 --> 00:19:41,789 people 436 00:19:50,009 --> 00:19:46,149 as with everything yeah that's possible 437 00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:50,019 but you know I don't know that but what 438 00:19:56,539 --> 00:19:52,960 I do know is that here's a rich guy who 439 00:19:59,460 --> 00:19:56,549 spent a lot of his personal fortune 440 00:20:03,149 --> 00:19:59,470 investing in a topic that you know we 441 00:20:06,659 --> 00:20:03,159 certainly are very interested in and he 442 00:20:08,519 --> 00:20:06,669 is clearly very passionate about you 443 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:08,529 know if every rich guy spent his money 444 00:20:11,700 --> 00:20:10,330 investigating paranormal stuff that'd be 445 00:20:15,330 --> 00:20:11,710 pretty rad we'd probably have a lot more 446 00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:15,340 answers you know certainly money much 447 00:20:18,899 --> 00:20:17,200 better spent than buying a yacht or 448 00:20:20,759 --> 00:20:18,909 something at least my in my opinion I 449 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:20,769 mean yachts are cool but but anyway 450 00:20:23,820 --> 00:20:21,490 Robert Bigelow 451 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:23,830 I admire the heck out of the guy I've 452 00:20:28,289 --> 00:20:24,970 said it for years and I'll continue 453 00:20:30,990 --> 00:20:28,299 saying it I would love to sit down with 454 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:31,000 Robert and you know have a drink and and 455 00:20:36,619 --> 00:20:33,490 talk some aliens and other strange stuff 456 00:20:40,049 --> 00:20:36,629 but he's doing incredible stuff in 457 00:20:43,919 --> 00:20:40,059 private space he's gonna make a moon 458 00:20:45,899 --> 00:20:43,929 base happen which is pretty rad and his 459 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:45,909 own private space station and stuff of 460 00:20:51,690 --> 00:20:48,370 course people also think that he's doing 461 00:20:54,299 --> 00:20:51,700 it for secret evil reasons to take 462 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:54,309 select people offworld when the earth is 463 00:21:01,320 --> 00:20:57,730 destroyed these elite can live in their 464 00:21:04,409 --> 00:21:01,330 secret space hotel but I'm still trying 465 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:04,419 to get to be one of those elite chosen 466 00:21:11,399 --> 00:21:06,850 people please take me to the moon hotel 467 00:21:13,889 --> 00:21:11,409 again maybe but probably not but the guy 468 00:21:17,029 --> 00:21:13,899 is doing some awesome stuff he is a 469 00:21:19,529 --> 00:21:17,039 pioneer in the modern-day space race and 470 00:21:21,149 --> 00:21:19,539 I am always excited when Bigelow 471 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:21,159 Aerospace is doing new things I think 472 00:21:26,369 --> 00:21:24,730 they partnering with other leaders like 473 00:21:29,610 --> 00:21:26,379 SpaceX are going to accomplish 474 00:21:30,749 --> 00:21:29,620 incredible things and we've again 475 00:21:33,810 --> 00:21:30,759 whirring you and I have talked about 476 00:21:36,389 --> 00:21:33,820 this before but I do think that the 477 00:21:38,669 --> 00:21:36,399 discovery of extraterrestrial life is 478 00:21:41,519 --> 00:21:38,679 really going to come first from somebody 479 00:21:42,830 --> 00:21:41,529 like an Elon Musk from SpaceX or Robert 480 00:21:47,009 --> 00:21:42,840 Bigelow from Bigelow Aerospace 481 00:21:47,630 --> 00:21:47,019 absolutely I have have to admit a kind 482 00:21:51,710 --> 00:21:47,640 of 483 00:21:56,090 --> 00:21:51,720 um space crush I would say on a long 484 00:22:00,700 --> 00:21:56,100 Musk not a romantic crush crush on 485 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:00,710 the technology he's developing and I 486 00:22:07,450 --> 00:22:03,810 think inventing well in the people 487 00:22:10,490 --> 00:22:07,460 behind the face of the lawn musk also 488 00:22:11,810 --> 00:22:10,500 the technology that's going to these 489 00:22:13,910 --> 00:22:11,820 shuttles that are going to be able to 490 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:13,920 get us from place to place so quickly 491 00:22:18,890 --> 00:22:17,310 that will actually be able to get real 492 00:22:20,420 --> 00:22:18,900 things done yeah there's so much 493 00:22:22,850 --> 00:22:20,430 exciting stuff happening in space right 494 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:22,860 now and a lot of it is I mean I don't 495 00:22:26,300 --> 00:22:24,330 want to diminish what NASA's doing a lot 496 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:26,310 of great people at NASA and exciting 497 00:22:29,930 --> 00:22:28,170 things going on there especially when 498 00:22:32,530 --> 00:22:29,940 you're talking about some of my favorite 499 00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:32,540 worlds in our solar system 500 00:22:40,010 --> 00:22:36,960 you know like Titan and Enceladus some 501 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:40,020 awesome programs going on there but NASA 502 00:22:44,270 --> 00:22:40,890 aside 503 00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:44,280 yeah SpaceX is just and big lower our 504 00:22:47,630 --> 00:22:45,840 space too and other private space 505 00:22:50,180 --> 00:22:47,640 companies are just making this such an 506 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:50,190 incredible time right now so in the past 507 00:22:55,910 --> 00:22:52,770 spacing out has primarily been focused 508 00:22:58,900 --> 00:22:55,920 on UFOs space exploration the search for 509 00:23:01,280 --> 00:22:58,910 extraterrestrial life but now that we've 510 00:23:04,130 --> 00:23:01,290 relaunched the show under rogue planet 511 00:23:06,770 --> 00:23:04,140 we're going to be exploring also a bunch 512 00:23:11,030 --> 00:23:06,780 of other paranormal subjects so we'll 513 00:23:14,510 --> 00:23:11,040 talk about Bigfoot ghosts cryptozoology 514 00:23:16,970 --> 00:23:14,520 cryptids the whole gamut and really he 515 00:23:21,020 --> 00:23:16,980 got to kind of get a jump start on this 516 00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:21,030 in July we were asked to speak at Denver 517 00:23:27,260 --> 00:23:24,240 Comic Con once again it's my third year 518 00:23:29,660 --> 00:23:27,270 Jason I think you're second and we spoke 519 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:29,670 on a bunch of panels but one was 520 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:32,250 specifically rogue planet sponsored and 521 00:23:37,900 --> 00:23:35,370 that was called real-life x-files where 522 00:23:41,450 --> 00:23:37,910 Jason and I discussed real-life 523 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:41,460 investigations horror stories sort of 524 00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:45,410 the paranormal conspiracy a little bit 525 00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:48,840 all sorts of fun topics frighten some 526 00:23:55,550 --> 00:23:52,110 children but the panel overall we felt 527 00:23:57,970 --> 00:23:55,560 was an incredible it wasn't credible I 528 00:24:01,370 --> 00:23:57,980 couldn't believe the turnout 529 00:24:03,890 --> 00:24:01,380 where people turned away sadly from the 530 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:03,900 panel because the room was max capacity 531 00:24:08,660 --> 00:24:06,210 they had this spillover waiting room for 532 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:08,670 people who were queued up waiting to get 533 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:11,370 in and then when they got in the room 534 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:13,050 was filled and standing-room-only and 535 00:24:16,550 --> 00:24:14,490 people were turned away that's how 536 00:24:20,330 --> 00:24:16,560 excited people were for this panel and 537 00:24:23,060 --> 00:24:20,340 obviously we assumed that these poor 538 00:24:24,110 --> 00:24:23,070 mislead people were assuming that David 539 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:24,120 Duchovny and Gillian Anderson 540 00:24:28,190 --> 00:24:25,530 Gillian Anderson were going to be there 541 00:24:29,780 --> 00:24:28,200 but we were pleasantly surprised that 542 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:29,790 that was not the case these people were 543 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:31,650 there to listen to stories we had to 544 00:24:37,310 --> 00:24:34,770 tell and a very engaged audience so it 545 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:37,320 was it was a really rad time but we 546 00:24:41,420 --> 00:24:38,610 thought we would share with you some of 547 00:24:45,230 --> 00:24:41,430 the highlights from our real x-files 548 00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:45,240 panel so Jason and I are both obviously 549 00:24:51,230 --> 00:24:48,480 huge x-files fans as well and there are 550 00:24:51,980 --> 00:24:51,240 a few differences from Mulder and Scully 551 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:51,990 on us again 552 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:54,210 Erik said we have been referred to as 553 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:56,010 Scully and Scully sometimes in a 554 00:25:02,150 --> 00:24:58,170 negative way because people are unhappy 555 00:25:03,860 --> 00:25:02,160 we're debunking stories however the 556 00:25:06,740 --> 00:25:03,870 differences are we've never worked for 557 00:25:08,750 --> 00:25:06,750 the FBI or the government to our 558 00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:08,760 knowledge some people have accused us of 559 00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:13,520 so and there is no love triangle here 560 00:25:18,290 --> 00:25:16,110 Jason is happily married and I am 561 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:18,300 happily not married to Jason no offense 562 00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:22,730 a lot of people have this common 563 00:25:27,340 --> 00:25:24,720 misperception that governments don't 564 00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:27,350 actually investigate UFOs and it's 565 00:25:32,110 --> 00:25:30,000 completely false outside of the u.s. 566 00:25:34,550 --> 00:25:32,120 there are tons of actually global 567 00:25:37,250 --> 00:25:34,560 investigation units that are official 568 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:37,260 government organizations correct Jason 569 00:25:42,140 --> 00:25:39,290 yeah I mean the government has a huge 570 00:25:45,660 --> 00:25:42,150 very long history of being involved in 571 00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:45,670 UFOs and frankly a lot of what we know 572 00:25:51,630 --> 00:25:49,360 UFOs and the UFO lore was started by the 573 00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:51,640 government I mean it's kind of perfect 574 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:53,200 and we're talking about this today 575 00:25:59,040 --> 00:25:56,650 because this very weekend right now 576 00:26:01,980 --> 00:25:59,050 they're celebrating the 70th anniversary 577 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:01,990 of the Roswell UFO incident in Roswell 578 00:26:07,380 --> 00:26:03,490 New Mexico that's taking place right now 579 00:26:09,090 --> 00:26:07,390 so speaking about Roswell you know and 580 00:26:12,780 --> 00:26:09,100 we just celebrated the Kenneth Arnold 581 00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:12,790 mm-hm anniversary to the first UFO 582 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:16,000 sighting in the modern UFO era but 583 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:18,010 Roswell we can talk about Roswell that 584 00:26:23,130 --> 00:26:20,290 really started I guess the whole 585 00:26:24,690 --> 00:26:23,140 government conspiracy thing where you 586 00:26:26,370 --> 00:26:24,700 have OHS related and the whole thing 587 00:26:28,140 --> 00:26:26,380 where governments are painted as the bad 588 00:26:30,510 --> 00:26:28,150 guys they're hiding things from us the 589 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:30,520 big cover-up when it comes to UFOs the 590 00:26:35,370 --> 00:26:32,290 Air Force did that themselves because 591 00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:35,380 with Roswell they're the ones who put 592 00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:37,360 out the press release that said we 593 00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:40,480 recovered a crash saucer they did that 594 00:26:46,020 --> 00:26:42,880 wasn't UFO weirdos coming out and saying 595 00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:46,030 oh the government found the UFO the Air 596 00:26:52,050 --> 00:26:49,660 Force said that so they took that and 597 00:26:53,970 --> 00:26:52,060 then started covering it up and changed 598 00:26:56,790 --> 00:26:53,980 that story up until just a few years ago 599 00:26:59,100 --> 00:26:56,800 story after story after story new 600 00:27:01,440 --> 00:26:59,110 explanations for what happened in 601 00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:01,450 Roswell and we still don't actually know 602 00:27:07,950 --> 00:27:04,840 but as far as UFO investigation goes 603 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:07,960 that see a year really spawned the 604 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:10,090 government's official investigations 605 00:27:17,310 --> 00:27:14,770 into UFOs starting with you know project 606 00:27:18,900 --> 00:27:17,320 sign yeah they did sign and sign he was 607 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:18,910 interesting that was their first really 608 00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:21,370 official investigation into UFOs this is 609 00:27:30,110 --> 00:27:24,510 done by the US Air Force and 610 00:27:32,690 --> 00:27:30,120 surprisingly they concluded sort of that 611 00:27:35,940 --> 00:27:32,700 some of the UFOs they couldn't identify 612 00:27:37,730 --> 00:27:35,950 the most likely explanation was 613 00:27:40,740 --> 00:27:37,740 something of extraterrestrial origin 614 00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:40,750 that's that's what the government came 615 00:27:45,020 --> 00:27:42,310 up came up with that was their 616 00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:45,030 conclusion that we probably had 617 00:27:47,710 --> 00:27:46,960 extraterrestrial spacecraft flying in 618 00:27:49,630 --> 00:27:47,720 our airspace 619 00:27:51,159 --> 00:27:49,640 well that didn't go over so well with 620 00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:51,169 some people in Washington 621 00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:55,039 so some higher-ups decided to then start 622 00:27:59,110 --> 00:27:57,110 another project called Project grudge 623 00:28:01,690 --> 00:27:59,120 and the name is very telling because 624 00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:01,700 they had a strict mandate right away 625 00:28:07,690 --> 00:28:04,640 that they were supposed to take all UFO 626 00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:07,700 reports that they got spin them and make 627 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:10,880 UFOs seem absolutely ridiculous ridicule 628 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:13,210 the people who were reporting them and 629 00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:15,410 put the story out to the media 630 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:17,809 that this is just ridiculous goofy stuff 631 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:20,090 don't take it seriously that was their 632 00:28:26,529 --> 00:28:21,890 official mandate and that's what project 633 00:28:28,149 --> 00:28:26,539 grudge did well people from the Pentagon 634 00:28:30,130 --> 00:28:28,159 took offense to that and they said guys 635 00:28:32,049 --> 00:28:30,140 we really need to figure out what's 636 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:32,059 going on here if we've got snow flying 637 00:28:36,010 --> 00:28:34,010 around in our airspace that's kind of 638 00:28:38,140 --> 00:28:36,020 freaky we need to figure it out so 639 00:28:40,060 --> 00:28:38,150 that's where Project Blue Book started 640 00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:40,070 and that's probably the most well known 641 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:42,080 official government investigation into 642 00:28:48,580 --> 00:28:46,130 UFOs and you know they didn't really do 643 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:48,590 a thorough investigation there was 644 00:28:52,390 --> 00:28:50,690 already some extreme bias going into 645 00:28:54,190 --> 00:28:52,400 that a lot of the people involved with 646 00:28:57,039 --> 00:28:54,200 project grudge were also involved with 647 00:28:59,890 --> 00:28:57,049 Blue Book and a lot of people leading 648 00:29:02,140 --> 00:28:59,900 leading Project Blue Book got frustrated 649 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:02,150 with the whole exercise because it was a 650 00:29:05,980 --> 00:29:04,130 futile exercise they figured they felt 651 00:29:08,770 --> 00:29:05,990 that the decision higher up had already 652 00:29:10,659 --> 00:29:08,780 been made that let's that's kind of 653 00:29:12,669 --> 00:29:10,669 brush UFOs under the table nothing to 654 00:29:14,649 --> 00:29:12,679 see here move along while speaking 655 00:29:17,529 --> 00:29:14,659 specifically about files the government 656 00:29:20,980 --> 00:29:17,539 has related to UFOs and another strange 657 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:20,990 things but specifically the UFOs it's 658 00:29:27,580 --> 00:29:23,510 interesting because in the past Oh 659 00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:27,590 five six seven years we've seen a flood 660 00:29:36,250 --> 00:29:33,110 of releases of UFO FILES from really all 661 00:29:38,669 --> 00:29:36,260 of our our departments from the CIA the 662 00:29:40,990 --> 00:29:38,679 FBI the Air Force 663 00:29:43,690 --> 00:29:41,000 these guys have all independently 664 00:29:46,370 --> 00:29:43,700 investigated UFOs and these files are 665 00:29:49,010 --> 00:29:46,380 available to the public 666 00:29:50,930 --> 00:29:49,020 and the CIA especially with the revival 667 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:50,940 of the x-files tried to capitalize on it 668 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:54,090 last year when they published you know 669 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:56,010 some of their their x-files and said see 670 00:30:00,560 --> 00:29:57,690 what's in our real x-files if you want 671 00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:00,570 to read 80,000 pages of really boring 672 00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:02,310 text it's pretty be my guest 673 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:05,310 yeah and the FBI has a digital reading 674 00:30:09,470 --> 00:30:07,050 room they call it the vault I think 675 00:30:12,110 --> 00:30:09,480 where you can go and and type in UFO and 676 00:30:14,330 --> 00:30:12,120 find their files too of course you know 677 00:30:16,850 --> 00:30:14,340 with no idea if they've actually 678 00:30:18,740 --> 00:30:16,860 released all the UFO files probably not 679 00:30:21,470 --> 00:30:18,750 certainly not good stuff but how many of 680 00:30:25,690 --> 00:30:21,480 you saw just the last week about the the 681 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:25,700 UK UK Ministry of Defense's UFO files 682 00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:30,050 okay so the mo D the Ministry of Defence 683 00:30:35,210 --> 00:30:33,510 actively investigated UFOs for a long 684 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:35,220 period of time and they had something 685 00:30:40,010 --> 00:30:37,050 they called the flying saucer working 686 00:30:42,830 --> 00:30:40,020 party and through that they developed 687 00:30:45,470 --> 00:30:42,840 the UFO desk they had something a post 688 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:45,480 called the UFO desk where they had a 689 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:49,290 team assigned to actively receive UFO 690 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:51,570 reports and investigate those reports 691 00:30:56,900 --> 00:30:54,450 and over the past several years they've 692 00:30:58,130 --> 00:30:56,910 gone through a process through because 693 00:31:01,130 --> 00:30:58,140 of a spawned by a Freedom of Information 694 00:31:04,610 --> 00:31:01,140 request they've released in batches 695 00:31:06,860 --> 00:31:04,620 their UFO files and they've claimed 696 00:31:09,050 --> 00:31:06,870 several times that this is all we've got 697 00:31:12,050 --> 00:31:09,060 it's all out there there you go stop 698 00:31:14,090 --> 00:31:12,060 bugging us but then a year goes by and 699 00:31:16,370 --> 00:31:14,100 they're all oh by the way we found more 700 00:31:22,370 --> 00:31:16,380 files we'll be linking those to you very 701 00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:22,380 soon and that's been a slow and ongoing 702 00:31:27,620 --> 00:31:24,510 process but they've gotten a lot of 703 00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:27,630 flack for it too because of various 704 00:31:33,740 --> 00:31:31,440 things of certain specific time periods 705 00:31:36,740 --> 00:31:33,750 conveniently missing from those files 706 00:31:40,290 --> 00:31:36,750 and one case in particular that was 707 00:31:42,510 --> 00:31:40,300 investigated heavily by the government 708 00:31:44,780 --> 00:31:42,520 was something they call that what is it 709 00:31:47,150 --> 00:31:44,790 the Britain's Roswell Friends Roswell 710 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:47,160 Rendlesham forest incident which 711 00:31:53,970 --> 00:31:52,690 involved a lot of US Air Force and they 712 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:53,980 were stationed over there kind of on 713 00:31:59,280 --> 00:31:55,810 loan in the base and it was late 714 00:32:02,100 --> 00:31:59,290 December and they saw yeah in 1980 they 715 00:32:03,420 --> 00:32:02,110 saw a bright light in the sky went out 716 00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:03,430 there to investigate though it was a 717 00:32:09,930 --> 00:32:06,880 multi-day event so basically I'll make 718 00:32:11,850 --> 00:32:09,940 this story short the airmen kind of got 719 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:11,860 close to this object and they said there 720 00:32:17,940 --> 00:32:13,810 was all this strange like hieroglyphic 721 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:17,950 markings around it and one of the men 722 00:32:22,620 --> 00:32:20,290 there there's tape recorder evidence too 723 00:32:25,860 --> 00:32:22,630 from a colonel one of the men got close 724 00:32:28,830 --> 00:32:25,870 and he apparently suffered all this 725 00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:28,840 health health problems now like a heart 726 00:32:32,940 --> 00:32:31,120 defect and his doctor says it was 727 00:32:37,530 --> 00:32:32,950 because he was exposed to a high level 728 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:37,540 of radiation and so he thinks it's from 729 00:32:42,210 --> 00:32:40,210 this UFO that he encountered and he went 730 00:32:43,740 --> 00:32:42,220 through all this red tape so the 731 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:43,750 government was refusing to give him his 732 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:45,610 medical files like we're not gonna give 733 00:32:52,410 --> 00:32:49,570 you coverage to say like oh you you were 734 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:52,420 sick because you saw a UFO and it was a 735 00:33:00,420 --> 00:32:57,130 huge mess and he eventually did get John 736 00:33:04,170 --> 00:33:00,430 McCain from Arizona to get his status 737 00:33:07,170 --> 00:33:04,180 enlisted showing that he was active they 738 00:33:08,790 --> 00:33:07,180 eventually said ok yeah we we think this 739 00:33:10,350 --> 00:33:08,800 was from something you experienced on 740 00:33:12,660 --> 00:33:10,360 the base so we're gonna give you full 741 00:33:14,940 --> 00:33:12,670 medical coverage so he said that's the 742 00:33:16,890 --> 00:33:14,950 government it admitting that UFOs are 743 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:16,900 real or extraterrestrial in nature I 744 00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:19,290 should say the military did find 745 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:21,310 elevated levels of radiation in that 746 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:23,290 area and it got even weirder because 747 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:24,850 there were multiple teams that went out 748 00:33:29,730 --> 00:33:27,010 to investigate and things were seeing 749 00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:29,740 unmultiplied this was an ongoing thing 750 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:32,110 and there was you know weird lights in 751 00:33:36,570 --> 00:33:33,850 the sky that were dripping like molten 752 00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:36,580 substance from the sky and even shooting 753 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:39,910 lasers at people that's freaky like 754 00:33:43,230 --> 00:33:41,770 hostile UFOs 755 00:33:45,570 --> 00:33:43,240 are really fascinating to be in really 756 00:33:47,670 --> 00:33:45,580 scary because we have many documented 757 00:33:50,430 --> 00:33:47,680 cases that were investigated by various 758 00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:50,440 government bodies of hostile UFOs these 759 00:33:54,390 --> 00:33:52,510 lights in the sky it's like zoom around 760 00:33:56,970 --> 00:33:54,400 and then shoot lasers and burn people 761 00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:56,980 and that happened in the Rendlesham case 762 00:34:02,460 --> 00:33:58,720 but there was another case that happened 763 00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:02,470 in 1977 in a small Brazilian island 764 00:34:11,580 --> 00:34:07,120 called colores and this was a case where 765 00:34:14,510 --> 00:34:11,590 thousands of people in Flores witnessed 766 00:34:17,010 --> 00:34:14,520 UFOs they called them chupa-chupa 767 00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:17,020 because they thought that these these 768 00:34:21,389 --> 00:34:18,730 balls of light and shooting these lasers 769 00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:21,399 they were sucking their blood but 770 00:34:26,010 --> 00:34:23,649 thousands of people saw mayors from one 771 00:34:28,020 --> 00:34:26,020 around the the entire region we're 772 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:28,030 pleading with the military to come and 773 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:31,210 figure out what these UFOs were that 774 00:34:36,510 --> 00:34:33,850 were hurting people so there was a 775 00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:36,520 military investigation that happened 776 00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:38,320 Karrie crew assigned to it witnessed 777 00:34:44,580 --> 00:34:42,310 these things for themselves and took 778 00:34:46,889 --> 00:34:44,590 hundreds they claim hundreds of 779 00:34:51,899 --> 00:34:46,899 thousands of photos and video from film 780 00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:51,909 video film and it was all turned over to 781 00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:53,649 the government and it was all locked 782 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:56,110 away some of those files have since been 783 00:35:00,030 --> 00:34:58,090 released I believe they started being 784 00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:00,040 released about five to ten years ago 785 00:35:03,990 --> 00:35:03,280 there's a very active UFO researcher in 786 00:35:07,650 --> 00:35:04,000 Brazil 787 00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:07,660 his name is AJ Debbie are and he used to 788 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:09,760 run a UFO magazine down there too you 789 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:12,130 might maybe still does but it's very 790 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:15,010 very active in research and education 791 00:35:17,820 --> 00:35:16,690 and meeting with the government and 792 00:35:19,950 --> 00:35:17,830 trying to get those biology leaves 793 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:19,960 because it's an extremely fascinating 794 00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:22,330 case you have a doctor testimony from 795 00:35:26,970 --> 00:35:24,160 from patients who came in with burn 796 00:35:31,410 --> 00:35:26,980 marks on their skin people who were just 797 00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:31,420 absolutely mentally messed up from just 798 00:35:35,010 --> 00:35:33,520 the terror that these lights in the sky 799 00:35:37,590 --> 00:35:35,020 were causing and chasing people around 800 00:35:40,610 --> 00:35:37,600 and shooting lasers who's the stranger 801 00:35:43,020 --> 00:35:40,620 thanks man so everyone yeah pretty much 802 00:35:45,690 --> 00:35:43,030 so I'm sure some of you have heard about 803 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:45,700 the Montauk Project which is what 804 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:47,650 stranger things was based off of and 805 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:52,450 this is a whole level of crazy I can't 806 00:35:56,910 --> 00:35:54,490 get into all the details because it's 807 00:35:59,220 --> 00:35:56,920 very insane but I will I will say this 808 00:36:01,260 --> 00:35:59,230 so Montauk New York there is a base 809 00:36:04,770 --> 00:36:01,270 there and it's now called camp hero 810 00:36:06,780 --> 00:36:04,780 State Park there is still a radar tower 811 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:06,790 there and then there's all these weird 812 00:36:11,790 --> 00:36:10,450 sealed-off entrances like manholes that 813 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:11,800 have been filled in with cement or 814 00:36:17,580 --> 00:36:15,850 they're flooded and a friend of mine 815 00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:17,590 Christopher Garrett hanno has been 816 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:19,920 researching the Montauk 817 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:22,930 you know conspiracy for the good part of 818 00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:25,330 15 years and needed a documentary called 819 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:28,240 Montauk chronicles he interviews Preston 820 00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:29,530 Nichols who's the guy that kind of 821 00:36:34,770 --> 00:36:32,710 brought this conspiracy to light he came 822 00:36:37,710 --> 00:36:34,780 forward and I think it was 1982 and 823 00:36:40,430 --> 00:36:37,720 wrote a book that said hey I found out I 824 00:36:43,530 --> 00:36:40,440 used to be a project manager for this 825 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:43,540 Montauk Project where they used to steal 826 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:46,570 boys off the street and take them to 827 00:36:49,390 --> 00:36:48,610 this base underground secret underground 828 00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:49,400 base 829 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:52,310 and torture them basically trying to 830 00:36:58,030 --> 00:36:54,770 break their mind so they could mold 831 00:36:59,350 --> 00:36:58,040 their minds into being secret spies he 832 00:37:02,380 --> 00:36:59,360 claimed a lot of them had psychic 833 00:37:05,140 --> 00:37:02,390 abilities so they were taking them all 834 00:37:07,690 --> 00:37:05,150 and a lot of these were riffraff kids 835 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:07,700 that they thought no one would miss they 836 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:09,170 would do really awful things that I 837 00:37:15,850 --> 00:37:11,210 won't repeat since there are some young 838 00:37:18,670 --> 00:37:15,860 people in the audience and but they 839 00:37:21,060 --> 00:37:18,680 basically were experienced and all of 840 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:21,070 this is allegedly by the way 841 00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:23,210 experimenting with teleport yeah 842 00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:27,440 teleportation stargates they claim that 843 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:30,560 all of this stuff they were getting was 844 00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:33,410 a lot from alien technology and alien 845 00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:34,880 influence like the aliens were teaching 846 00:37:38,980 --> 00:37:37,520 our government how to manipulate these 847 00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:38,990 people's minds so they could be these 848 00:37:47,220 --> 00:37:42,560 super soldiers and they claim somewhere 849 00:37:50,260 --> 00:37:47,230 between 10 200 to 300 thousand of these 850 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:50,270 kids were taken and a lot of them died 851 00:37:54,820 --> 00:37:53,330 and they disposed of the bodies but 852 00:37:56,890 --> 00:37:54,830 there are some who claim to have been 853 00:37:58,390 --> 00:37:56,900 Montauk boys that have escaped this 854 00:38:00,340 --> 00:37:58,400 thing there's a lot of parallels to 855 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:00,350 stranger things so first off the idea 856 00:38:06,580 --> 00:38:03,370 that they're doing this telekinesis mine 857 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:06,590 experiments on 11 was came from there 858 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:08,650 and then you have the demo Gordon and 859 00:38:14,430 --> 00:38:11,210 that actually came from this thing 860 00:38:16,660 --> 00:38:14,440 called the Montauk chair which was this 861 00:38:19,690 --> 00:38:16,670 chair that they would put these psychic 862 00:38:22,060 --> 00:38:19,700 boys into that allegedly would with 863 00:38:25,420 --> 00:38:22,070 electromagnetic manifests what they were 864 00:38:27,130 --> 00:38:25,430 thinking and when they were trying to 865 00:38:29,950 --> 00:38:27,140 end this program they tricked this one 866 00:38:33,250 --> 00:38:29,960 guy Duncan Cameron into sitting in the 867 00:38:36,370 --> 00:38:33,260 chair and he manifested this hairy crazy 868 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:36,380 beast which physically appeared and 869 00:38:41,620 --> 00:38:40,130 wrecked the whole base and that is is 870 00:38:44,430 --> 00:38:41,630 where the inspiration for that came from 871 00:38:48,490 --> 00:38:44,440 there's a lot of other parallels and 872 00:38:49,810 --> 00:38:48,500 again this seems so far-fetched that you 873 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:49,820 really have to take about grain of salt 874 00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:52,490 obviously we can't prove this all the 875 00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:55,040 stuff that have the camp hero is really 876 00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:58,610 freaky really weird and a lot of you 877 00:39:01,970 --> 00:39:00,000 know just can 878 00:39:03,830 --> 00:39:01,980 hearsay is what we have to go on but 879 00:39:05,450 --> 00:39:03,840 there is some documentation out there 880 00:39:07,660 --> 00:39:05,460 about Camp Ariel and the things that 881 00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:07,670 went on there really weird 882 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:10,110 experimentation and testing stuff in the 883 00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:14,490 nearby region you know remember what 884 00:39:19,850 --> 00:39:16,560 year it was was uh several years ago now 885 00:39:21,110 --> 00:39:19,860 but it was a weird and floating around 886 00:39:23,060 --> 00:39:21,120 the internet and the fighting pictures 887 00:39:25,940 --> 00:39:23,070 oh he probably recognized it but they 888 00:39:27,860 --> 00:39:25,950 dubbed it the Montauk Monster this weird 889 00:39:30,170 --> 00:39:27,870 thing that washed up on a beach and 890 00:39:32,540 --> 00:39:30,180 looked really weird or kind of like a 891 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:32,550 half dog half bird have something else 892 00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:34,890 he was really weird-looking a mutant 893 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:36,720 people couldn't couldn't figure out what 894 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:39,930 his crazy creature was and you know it 895 00:39:46,130 --> 00:39:43,290 was really ascribed to Plum Island 896 00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:46,140 there's a Animal Disease Research Center 897 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:49,440 that is in that area and they do all 898 00:39:57,410 --> 00:39:53,610 sorts of crazy biological just awful 899 00:39:59,180 --> 00:39:57,420 testing and you know mutating animals 900 00:40:01,880 --> 00:39:59,190 and doing all sorts of things I think it 901 00:40:04,070 --> 00:40:01,890 was a eventually shut down but the weird 902 00:40:06,530 --> 00:40:04,080 thing about that research facility was 903 00:40:10,340 --> 00:40:06,540 he was initially owned by I think the 904 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:10,350 department energy or something like that 905 00:40:15,650 --> 00:40:14,010 but the 2012 Homeland Security took it 906 00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:15,660 over and nobody knows what they're doing 907 00:40:19,700 --> 00:40:17,550 now but there's a facility there that 908 00:40:21,860 --> 00:40:19,710 Homeland Security took over and then we 909 00:40:23,870 --> 00:40:21,870 get this weird freaky looking monster 910 00:40:27,260 --> 00:40:23,880 that washes up people think it's a 911 00:40:30,860 --> 00:40:27,270 raccoon now that's what the like sort of 912 00:40:32,990 --> 00:40:30,870 skeptical hypothesis is is that its nose 913 00:40:34,460 --> 00:40:33,000 had been eaten away so it looks like it 914 00:40:36,140 --> 00:40:34,470 has a beak but it's really just it's 915 00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:36,150 cool but you can check out that picture 916 00:40:39,020 --> 00:40:37,680 it's really pretty piece but they call 917 00:40:41,900 --> 00:40:39,030 it the Montauk Monster you can find it 918 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:41,910 pretty easily but on the topic of mind 919 00:40:45,290 --> 00:40:43,770 control and psychological warfare and 920 00:40:46,940 --> 00:40:45,300 all that stuff there's plenty of 921 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:46,950 government documentation that you can 922 00:40:51,530 --> 00:40:49,890 read to fire or easily access to find 923 00:40:53,180 --> 00:40:51,540 out the government's role in all of this 924 00:40:55,940 --> 00:40:53,190 you know the movie men who stare at 925 00:41:00,410 --> 00:40:55,950 goats that's 100 but not 100% but it's 926 00:41:02,990 --> 00:41:00,420 remotely based on reality CIA was very 927 00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:03,000 active in mind control research and in 928 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:05,040 fact there are Supreme Court cases that 929 00:41:10,070 --> 00:41:08,250 you can read all about that because they 930 00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:10,080 were doing things that were extremely 931 00:41:16,230 --> 00:41:13,510 illegal along the lines of 932 00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:16,240 you know the the montage stuff with you 933 00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:17,710 know taking homeless people and 934 00:41:21,630 --> 00:41:19,150 conducting all sorts of terrible 935 00:41:23,490 --> 00:41:21,640 experiments on them feeding them LSD and 936 00:41:25,470 --> 00:41:23,500 other things that was MKULTRA if you 937 00:41:28,710 --> 00:41:25,480 ever want to look it up but yes there is 938 00:41:32,820 --> 00:41:28,720 testimony and skinwalker ranch anyone 939 00:41:35,250 --> 00:41:32,830 heard of skinwalker ranch few people you 940 00:41:38,220 --> 00:41:35,260 want to start on that one I mean just a 941 00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:38,230 few weeks ago you know Robert Bigelow me 942 00:41:41,970 --> 00:41:39,760 in the news I don't know how many watch 943 00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:41,980 60 minutes but 60 minutes data interview 944 00:41:48,270 --> 00:41:44,160 with Robert Bigelow Robert Bigelow is a 945 00:41:50,700 --> 00:41:48,280 private space industry pioneer and he 946 00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:50,710 runs Bigelow Aerospace doing fantastic 947 00:41:55,859 --> 00:41:52,720 things in the private space world but 948 00:41:59,730 --> 00:41:55,869 Robert Bigelow is also very much into 949 00:42:01,700 --> 00:41:59,740 UFOs and all things strange and he made 950 00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:01,710 it very loud and clear on 60 minutes 951 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:05,200 where he proudly claimed that he knows 952 00:42:10,050 --> 00:42:07,210 that extraterrestrials are here on earth 953 00:42:12,210 --> 00:42:10,060 right now walking among us now Robert 954 00:42:13,980 --> 00:42:12,220 Bigelow is it the first time he's made 955 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:13,990 that claim he's always been very proud 956 00:42:18,060 --> 00:42:16,090 and open about his belief about you know 957 00:42:20,130 --> 00:42:18,070 UFOs and extraterrestrials but he's 958 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:20,140 poured millions of his own dollars into 959 00:42:28,770 --> 00:42:24,450 actively researching UFOs Bigfoot 960 00:42:31,530 --> 00:42:28,780 consciousness all sorts of everything he 961 00:42:34,050 --> 00:42:31,540 founded a scientific organization called 962 00:42:35,370 --> 00:42:34,060 nits and it doesn't exist anymore but 963 00:42:37,230 --> 00:42:35,380 the National Institute of Discovery 964 00:42:41,250 --> 00:42:37,240 Sciences where he assembled a team of 965 00:42:44,609 --> 00:42:41,260 scientists and ex-fbi people to actively 966 00:42:48,780 --> 00:42:44,619 investigate cases of the paranormal and 967 00:42:50,310 --> 00:42:48,790 he purchased a ranch in Utah a location 968 00:42:52,740 --> 00:42:50,320 of high strangeness everything you could 969 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:52,750 possibly imagine and it had knit to come 970 00:42:56,670 --> 00:42:54,970 on the ranch and really blocked 971 00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:56,680 everybody off and they'll allow anybody 972 00:43:00,120 --> 00:42:58,000 else on the property and they did a 973 00:43:03,420 --> 00:43:00,130 scientific investigation there and they 974 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:03,430 found a lot of weird stuff they had 975 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:06,130 their cameras torn apart they allegedly 976 00:43:10,589 --> 00:43:08,290 found portals to I mean these are this 977 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:10,599 is like a really credible scientist and 978 00:43:15,660 --> 00:43:12,970 a really respected journalist wrote this 979 00:43:17,370 --> 00:43:15,670 book called the hunt for skinwalker the 980 00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:17,380 family that was living on the ranch sold 981 00:43:21,329 --> 00:43:18,609 it to Bigelow because they were 982 00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:21,339 experiencing so much paranormal activity 983 00:43:25,290 --> 00:43:22,720 in their home like their cupboards 984 00:43:26,609 --> 00:43:25,300 flying open their dish our groceries 985 00:43:29,539 --> 00:43:26,619 flying everywhere in 986 00:43:32,130 --> 00:43:29,549 giant wolves attacking their livestock 987 00:43:35,220 --> 00:43:32,140 and a bunch of other things so this 988 00:43:39,420 --> 00:43:35,230 ranch is on the Ute reservation in Utah 989 00:43:42,690 --> 00:43:39,430 and it is allegedly the whole area is 990 00:43:45,269 --> 00:43:42,700 just ripe with UFO sightings and other 991 00:43:46,859 --> 00:43:45,279 monsters and animal mutilations like 992 00:43:49,349 --> 00:43:46,869 everything in the paranormal world 993 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:49,359 happens there it's not just confined to 994 00:43:54,029 --> 00:43:52,210 that ranch is that whole region but yeah 995 00:43:56,849 --> 00:43:54,039 so there are lots of different 996 00:43:59,849 --> 00:43:56,859 investigations with with crazy monster 997 00:44:02,519 --> 00:43:59,859 like stuff including one of my favorites 998 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:02,529 is the the car matching lizard of 999 00:44:08,910 --> 00:44:05,650 skateboard swamp where this kid claims 1000 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:08,920 that he was attacked by a lizard man 1001 00:44:14,460 --> 00:44:11,890 with glowing red eyes and scaly fingers 1002 00:44:16,529 --> 00:44:14,470 three fingers that chased him in this 1003 00:44:18,450 --> 00:44:16,539 old swamp while he was coming home from 1004 00:44:21,390 --> 00:44:18,460 working at a fast food restaurant and 1005 00:44:24,180 --> 00:44:21,400 attacked his car he managed to escape 1006 00:44:26,549 --> 00:44:24,190 from him but he had all these scrape 1007 00:44:29,940 --> 00:44:26,559 marks down his car and he showed up his 1008 00:44:31,319 --> 00:44:29,950 parents's he's crying he was very 1009 00:44:32,999 --> 00:44:31,329 distraught they called the cops so the 1010 00:44:34,739 --> 00:44:33,009 cops are investigating this area and all 1011 00:44:38,339 --> 00:44:34,749 of a sudden all these other reports one 1012 00:44:42,299 --> 00:44:38,349 from an Air Force guy start popping up 1013 00:44:44,849 --> 00:44:42,309 and there was a case where this old 1014 00:44:47,789 --> 00:44:44,859 couple said that their entire their car 1015 00:44:50,009 --> 00:44:47,799 was attacked by something and literally 1016 00:44:52,620 --> 00:44:50,019 parts of the car were torn off and like 1017 00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:52,630 in teeth marks kind of and they had the 1018 00:44:57,089 --> 00:44:55,180 the police and Animal Control come out 1019 00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:57,099 and they could not identify the bite so 1020 00:45:02,160 --> 00:44:59,680 they assumed it's this this lizard is is 1021 00:45:04,829 --> 00:45:02,170 eating it on on this one I'm gonna go 1022 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:04,839 ahead and say I believe this is probably 1023 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:07,210 more of a tourism hoax like because now 1024 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:09,249 they're kind of giving the Roswell thing 1025 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:11,410 where everyone comes to see the lizard 1026 00:45:15,509 --> 00:45:14,410 from scape ore swamp and they've a lot 1027 00:45:18,299 --> 00:45:15,519 of people have been caught hoaxing 1028 00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:18,309 footprints but there's a lot of stuff 1029 00:45:23,009 --> 00:45:20,529 that like you look at it and the police 1030 00:45:25,259 --> 00:45:23,019 and other official agencies are actually 1031 00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:25,269 taking it somewhat seriously and at 1032 00:45:29,970 --> 00:45:26,710 least coming out to investigate the 1033 00:45:32,549 --> 00:45:29,980 claims one of my favorite investigations 1034 00:45:36,930 --> 00:45:32,559 that Jason and I have done together is 1035 00:45:39,779 --> 00:45:36,940 on the ghost side at the old Idaho 1036 00:45:40,350 --> 00:45:39,789 Penitentiary and we happen to do this on 1037 00:45:44,460 --> 00:45:40,360 a Friday 1038 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:44,470 13th which makes it extra special 1039 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:48,250 but this penitentiary had a lot of 1040 00:45:52,140 --> 00:45:50,770 history of riots and in other things and 1041 00:45:55,890 --> 00:45:52,150 it was one of the first places where 1042 00:45:58,530 --> 00:45:55,900 they were hanging people in Idaho and 1043 00:46:00,720 --> 00:45:58,540 there was this man a knight I always 1044 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:00,730 want to say his name was Edward Snowden 1045 00:46:05,970 --> 00:46:03,490 but it's Raymond Snowden not to be 1046 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:05,980 confused with a hacker he was a real 1047 00:46:14,250 --> 00:46:10,210 jerk and killed a woman a mother when he 1048 00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:14,260 was out at a bar and he was sentenced to 1049 00:46:20,190 --> 00:46:17,920 death by hanging and he was the last 1050 00:46:23,460 --> 00:46:20,200 first and last person they hung in this 1051 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:23,470 one cell Bach it was about 12:20 a.m. I 1052 00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:26,410 think and his neck did break on the way 1053 00:46:34,290 --> 00:46:30,400 down so he was suffering for about 15 1054 00:46:36,450 --> 00:46:34,300 minutes so we were in a different cell 1055 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:36,460 block that overlooked that one that one 1056 00:46:41,340 --> 00:46:39,370 was down the hill and we were all 1057 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:41,350 talking and looking around and all of a 1058 00:46:47,550 --> 00:46:44,050 sudden we heard this rattle shaking mmm 1059 00:46:50,490 --> 00:46:47,560 that really echoed in the mic and what 1060 00:46:52,890 --> 00:46:50,500 happened was the the door from cellblock 1061 00:46:56,130 --> 00:46:52,900 5 which was the maximum security prison 1062 00:46:59,010 --> 00:46:56,140 where he was honey swung shut and it was 1063 00:47:01,440 --> 00:46:59,020 this big heavy metal door so we make 1064 00:47:04,170 --> 00:47:01,450 sure nobody is actually down there 1065 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:04,180 investigating Jason did you catch that 1066 00:47:08,970 --> 00:47:05,770 on camera I don't remember if you did or 1067 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:08,980 not okay so two people in our group went 1068 00:47:14,970 --> 00:47:11,050 down to make sure there was nobody in 1069 00:47:16,380 --> 00:47:14,980 there and they found it was clear but 1070 00:47:18,810 --> 00:47:16,390 then they heard footsteps and they're 1071 00:47:21,060 --> 00:47:18,820 like running but they couldn't see 1072 00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:21,070 anybody so they came back out to report 1073 00:47:24,540 --> 00:47:22,960 back and as they were walking up we're 1074 00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:24,550 all looking down the hill at this other 1075 00:47:30,930 --> 00:47:27,250 building and right behind them the huge 1076 00:47:32,970 --> 00:47:30,940 door goes boom again like crazy it was 1077 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:32,980 not wind I don't know if you're gonna 1078 00:47:38,130 --> 00:47:36,130 explain that yes no wind really heavy 1079 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:38,140 metal door and like we played with it 1080 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:40,170 see like how absolutely it would move 1081 00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:42,130 nothing was moving that door but 1082 00:47:46,110 --> 00:47:44,110 apparently something didn't so we were 1083 00:47:50,010 --> 00:47:46,120 lucky enough then this is the other 1084 00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:50,020 little gem from it to be in max like 1085 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:52,000 right during the time where his hanging 1086 00:47:57,180 --> 00:47:53,650 happened so we were 1087 00:48:00,180 --> 00:47:57,190 in the gallows we had been upstairs the 1088 00:48:02,489 --> 00:48:00,190 upstairs where there's the drop door 1089 00:48:07,289 --> 00:48:02,499 drop and then you go downstairs and it's 1090 00:48:10,620 --> 00:48:07,299 the bottom very an appealing looking 1091 00:48:12,809 --> 00:48:10,630 place and we were the only people in the 1092 00:48:15,390 --> 00:48:12,819 building and we're all quiet and we're 1093 00:48:17,789 --> 00:48:15,400 waiting to look at the time is this guy 1094 00:48:22,099 --> 00:48:17,799 gonna materialize or something magical 1095 00:48:24,509 --> 00:48:22,109 gonna happen and myself and Jason's wife 1096 00:48:27,089 --> 00:48:24,519 Jessica were the only two people that 1097 00:48:30,450 --> 00:48:27,099 heard this somehow distinct right above 1098 00:48:34,799 --> 00:48:30,460 us a ton of footsteps and we went up 1099 00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:34,809 there and nobody was there so you know I 1100 00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:38,319 I never like I said we're skeptical and 1101 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:41,200 try to be objective I can't explain what 1102 00:48:45,809 --> 00:48:43,930 I saw or what I heard but I'm not gonna 1103 00:48:47,970 --> 00:48:45,819 say for sure that it was something that 1104 00:48:50,759 --> 00:48:47,980 was paranormal place how many years saw 1105 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:50,769 the Phoenix lights anybody oh there we 1106 00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:53,170 go there you go so for those of you who 1107 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:54,910 aren't familiar with the Phoenix lights 1108 00:49:01,069 --> 00:48:56,650 the Phoenix lights happened in March of 1109 00:49:04,499 --> 00:49:01,079 1997 in Phoenix in Arizona as a whole 1110 00:49:09,150 --> 00:49:04,509 but it really is the largest matchup o 1111 00:49:11,220 --> 00:49:09,160 sighting in recent history for sure but 1112 00:49:14,819 --> 00:49:11,230 thousands of people all across Arizona 1113 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:14,829 saw multiple events that night but some 1114 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:18,970 reports seeing a gigantic craft the size 1115 00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:21,249 of multiple football fields basically 1116 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:24,880 traversed the entire state you know low 1117 00:49:30,930 --> 00:49:28,690 flying slow flying craft and that was in 1118 00:49:33,749 --> 00:49:30,940 the news recently - because / Brussels 1119 00:49:35,789 --> 00:49:33,759 apparently witnessed it he's a pilot and 1120 00:49:37,890 --> 00:49:35,799 there was for many years we knew that 1121 00:49:39,359 --> 00:49:37,900 some private pilot had radioed it into 1122 00:49:42,299 --> 00:49:39,369 the tower at Sky Harbor Airport in 1123 00:49:44,009 --> 00:49:42,309 Phoenix we now know that according to 1124 00:49:46,109 --> 00:49:44,019 him anyway it was the pilot who reported 1125 00:49:49,069 --> 00:49:46,119 that but this is something that was 1126 00:49:52,259 --> 00:49:49,079 witnessed by thousands of people I 1127 00:49:54,269 --> 00:49:52,269 certainly saw it I was a 17 year old boy 1128 00:49:56,099 --> 00:49:54,279 and living in the middle of the desert 1129 00:49:58,289 --> 00:49:56,109 and got a wonderful view of it I looked 1130 00:50:01,259 --> 00:49:58,299 up pretty much right outside my house 1131 00:50:03,420 --> 00:50:01,269 and saw a series of because many years 1132 00:50:06,190 --> 00:50:03,430 ago I don't pretend to remember details 1133 00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:06,200 exactly but I like to say 5 - 7 y 1134 00:50:11,530 --> 00:50:09,680 just hovering motionless in the sky not 1135 00:50:14,260 --> 00:50:11,540 doing anything not moving not making 1136 00:50:17,819 --> 00:50:14,270 sound just remain there for I would 1137 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:17,829 estimate 30 to 45 minutes It's Made 1138 00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:20,930 nationwide and then worldwide news the 1139 00:50:27,339 --> 00:50:24,800 governor at the time Fife Symington made 1140 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:27,349 light of the situation and tried to play 1141 00:50:30,220 --> 00:50:29,210 it off in the media as a joke and he 1142 00:50:33,190 --> 00:50:30,230 said you people are taking this way too 1143 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:33,200 seriously he need to move on don't worry 1144 00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:34,730 about it it's not freaking out the 1145 00:50:40,510 --> 00:50:37,609 aliens on here but years later he 1146 00:50:44,170 --> 00:50:40,520 admitted that he too witnessed this 1147 00:50:46,660 --> 00:50:44,180 craft or UFOs whatever they were and he 1148 00:50:49,089 --> 00:50:46,670 was an Air Force pilot in his history 1149 00:50:50,829 --> 00:50:49,099 and he said I'm very familiar with 1150 00:50:53,290 --> 00:50:50,839 aircraft I'm very familiar with things 1151 00:50:55,420 --> 00:50:53,300 in the sky what I saw that night was not 1152 00:50:59,470 --> 00:50:55,430 of this earth that was the Governor of 1153 00:51:01,870 --> 00:50:59,480 Arizona and he faced lots of roadblocks 1154 00:51:03,310 --> 00:51:01,880 when he tried actively tried as governor 1155 00:51:03,819 --> 00:51:03,320 to get answers to what happened that 1156 00:51:06,490 --> 00:51:03,829 night 1157 00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:06,500 because they thought and city council 1158 00:51:10,660 --> 00:51:07,910 members also getting City Council 1159 00:51:13,660 --> 00:51:10,670 members fought to get answers from the 1160 00:51:16,089 --> 00:51:13,670 nearby air force base and they were just 1161 00:51:18,970 --> 00:51:16,099 shut down at everywhere they went and 1162 00:51:21,130 --> 00:51:18,980 then years later they were given some 1163 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:21,140 phony-baloney response oh oh yeah by the 1164 00:51:24,609 --> 00:51:23,450 way after telling you many times that we 1165 00:51:26,290 --> 00:51:24,619 didn't have any planes dropping flares 1166 00:51:29,470 --> 00:51:26,300 that might guess what they were just 1167 00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:29,480 military flares haha but the time they 1168 00:51:34,059 --> 00:51:31,520 provided for that didn't align with the 1169 00:51:35,370 --> 00:51:34,069 time of the sighting and it took them 1170 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:35,380 years to come up with this explanation 1171 00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:39,050 so a lot of things still don't make 1172 00:51:42,790 --> 00:51:40,250 sense with the Phoenix lights there 1173 00:51:46,329 --> 00:51:42,800 still isn't a definitive answer I think 1174 00:51:49,180 --> 00:51:46,339 it's a fantastic case and it was pretty 1175 00:51:51,099 --> 00:51:49,190 much a case of government officials 1176 00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:51,109 trying to get answers from other 1177 00:51:54,670 --> 00:51:53,119 government officials and not being able 1178 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:54,680 to because they did have the need to 1179 00:51:59,079 --> 00:51:56,810 know or or whatever the situation was 1180 00:52:01,300 --> 00:51:59,089 with the Phoenix lights fantastic mass 1181 00:52:03,460 --> 00:52:01,310 UFO sighting what would you suggest 1182 00:52:05,319 --> 00:52:03,470 Jason in your opinion is your favorite 1183 00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:05,329 piece of equipment you feel people 1184 00:52:09,849 --> 00:52:07,520 should invest in no I don't think people 1185 00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:09,859 should investigate the paranormal it's 1186 00:52:13,180 --> 00:52:11,110 frustrating 1187 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:13,190 doesn't matter what equipment you have 1188 00:52:17,740 --> 00:52:15,410 you know you're still not going to have 1189 00:52:19,900 --> 00:52:17,750 something that's as conclusive as you 1190 00:52:22,990 --> 00:52:19,910 want or you know something that is as 1191 00:52:25,090 --> 00:52:23,000 definitive proof that you will be able 1192 00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:25,100 to you know convince everybody that's 1193 00:52:28,990 --> 00:52:26,480 not going to happen it's frustrating it 1194 00:52:31,450 --> 00:52:29,000 doesn't matter how creative camera you 1195 00:52:33,250 --> 00:52:31,460 have or anything and you you know I 1196 00:52:36,220 --> 00:52:33,260 could go outside right now and there 1197 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:36,230 could be an amazing spacecraft there and 1198 00:52:38,050 --> 00:52:37,610 I could film it with the best camera in 1199 00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:38,060 the world 1200 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:39,680 tanking camera working it's too quick 1201 00:52:44,290 --> 00:52:42,410 but you know I show it to people I show 1202 00:52:45,820 --> 00:52:44,300 it to the news who ever and then people 1203 00:52:49,330 --> 00:52:45,830 will say oh that's Photoshop you 1204 00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:49,340 digitally created that I mean there are 1205 00:52:54,700 --> 00:52:52,310 the roadblocks that exist but nothing 1206 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:54,710 you said I'll still say good camera yeah 1207 00:53:00,820 --> 00:52:57,290 because and in video is preferred 1208 00:53:03,340 --> 00:53:00,830 because things happen so fast no matter 1209 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:03,350 which of these phenomena you're talking 1210 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:06,530 about but a good camera beats everything 1211 00:53:12,430 --> 00:53:09,530 in my opinion okay I agree and but I 1212 00:53:14,830 --> 00:53:12,440 will say investing in a really good 1213 00:53:16,270 --> 00:53:14,840 audio recorder because then not only can 1214 00:53:18,670 --> 00:53:16,280 you capture witness 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